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Embrace November 29, 2009

Filed under: Books,Miscellaneous — Jung @ 4:58 am

Probably should promise never to quote Barthes again, but listening to Dindi on loop for the past 3 days, and spending a day at MOMA seeing lots of deranged images today, made me think of this fragment; heck, I am not sleeping anyway…

“In the loving calm of your arms”

étreinte / embrace

the gesture of the amorous embrace seems to fulfill,
for a time, the subject’s dream of total union with
the loved being.

1. Besides intercourse (when the Image-repertoire goes to the devil), there is that other embrace, which is a motionless cradling: we are enchanted, bewitched: we are in the realm of sleep, without sleeping; we are within the voluptuous infantilism of sleepiness: this is the moment for telling stories, the moment of the voice which takes me, siderates me, this is the return to the mother (“In the loving calm of your arms,” says a poem set to music by Duparc). In this companionable incest, everything is suspended: time, law, prohibition: nothing is exhausted, nothing is wanted: all desires are abolished, for they seem definitively fulfilled.

2. Yet, within this infantile embrace, the genital unfailingly appears; it cuts off the diffuse sensuality of the incestuous embrace; the logic of desire begins to function, the will-to-possess returns, the adult is superimposed upon the child. I am then two subjects at once: I want maternity and genitality.

3. A moment of affirmation; for a certain time, though a finite one a deranged interval, something has been successful: I have been fulfilled (all my desires abolished by the plenitude of their satisfaction): fulfillment does exist, and I shall keep on making it return: persist in wanting to rediscover to renew the contradiction — the contraction — of the two embraces.

A Lover’s Discourse: Fragments Roland Barthes


4 Responses to “Embrace”

  1. je suis desole says:

    With infinite adoration and respect for Jung, this “subject” humbly rejects all-things Barthes. We recognize his brilliant word-play but are unmoved by the musings of a 19th Century French “love-guru” and all of his contradictions and contractions. Simply put, I do not like Barthes. But what a conflict arises Smile

    If you are a fan, please stop reading this further, “je suis vraiment desole”.

    If you are not, please join me in this opportunity for an intellectual exercise in joyful Barthes-bashing Smile

    Barthes Deciphered
    “This is the definitive work on Barthes, as it puts his “Oeuvre”
    in plain colloquial English, and explains Barthes in context of
    19th Century French sexual norms. This is a definite must-read
    and an excellent guide and primer for current-day fans of Barthes.”
    “The Dummy’s Guide to Barthes”, November 2009

    ——————————————————————————–

    Barthes “In the loving calm of your arms”
    [“étreinte / embrace
    the gesture of the amorous embrace seems to fulfill,
    for a time, the subject’s dream of total union with
    the loved being.”]

    Barthes Deciphered
    To prove his/her love, the subject will embrace her/him to fulfill
    her/his dream of being loved. That should work for a while.

    [Barthes:
    “1. Besides intercourse (when the Image-repertoire goes to the devil), there is that other embrace, which is a motionless cradling: we are enchanted, bewitched: we are in the realm of sleep, without sleeping; we are within the voluptuous infantilism of sleepiness: this is the moment for telling stories, the moment of the voice which takes me, siderates me, this is the return to the mother (”In the loving calm of your arms,” says a poem set to music by Duparc). In this companionable incest, everything is suspended: time, law, prohibition: nothing is exhausted, nothing is wanted: all desires are abolished, for they seem definitively fulfilled.”]

    Barthes Deciphered
    (Editor’s note: 19th Century French norms reflected Victorian dogma on sex – namely that it is the devil’s doing, a no-no!)
    1. We all know intercourse is evil. and I know I will burn in hell-fire for eternity. But sadly the devil makes me do it. Besides that unspeakable act (ugh!), I truly love being held in her/his arms, it feels so cozy, so safe, just like being in mamma’s embrace. That was so beautiful it makes me want to cry! I love my mammmmmaaaaa! Oh oh, that sounds like incest. Now I am definitely going to burn in hell! That’s OK, Oedipus was a Rex and he made out oh-kay! It just feels so good dreaming of being in mamma’s arms. I don’t want anything else. I am good! , . . .

    [Barthes:
    “2. Yet, within this infantile embrace, the genital unfailingly appears; it cuts off the diffuse sensuality of the incestuous embrace; the logic of desire begins to function, the will-to-possess returns, the adult is superimposed upon the child. I am then two subjects at once: I want maternity and genitality”]

    Barthes Deciphered
    (Editor’s note: In 19th Century France, there were no surgical solutions available, and sex-therapy was unheard of)
    2. Just when I am feeling sooo-good dreaming of mamma, the devil gets into my pants! I hate myself when that happens. Now I have incest on my mind and I want sex. I want both! Why couldn’t I have stayed a baby? That’s so sad, I am crying again. Looks like I’ll have to run around the block and jump into the shower again!

    [Barthes:
    “3. A moment of affirmation; for a certain time, though a finite one a deranged interval, something has been successful: I have been fulfilled (all my desires abolished by the plenitude of their satisfaction): fulfillment does exist, and I shall keep on making it return: persist in wanting to rediscover to renew the contradiction — the contraction — of the two embraces.”]

    Barthes Deciphered
    (Editor’s note: Repressed sexuality in 19th Century France resulted in conflicted and contradicted men with contractions)
    3. It didn’t work! I did the dirty-deed again! For a short-time, a couple of minutes, the devil in me took over. I want mammmmmaaaaaa! But then I go crazy and I want to do it again, and again, and again! But darn it, the contradiction gives me a contraction! Hey, they say repetition makes perfect. I will renew my efforts.

    Editor’s Note:
    The reader is encouraged to come up with her/his observations and conclusions regarding Barthes. The editors recognize the complexity of the subject matter and acknowledge the brilliancy of Barthes’ work. We also wish to state our debt to Guillaume Canebasso and his ground-breaking treatise “On Mephisto and Barthes – Amorous Embraces, Companionable Incest, Contradictions and Contractions, Derangement, Longing for Maternity While Desiring Genitality – Contrasted to Love in a New York State of Mind”

    Our take on all this is conflicted, but can be summed up as follows: “That’s OK, Oedipus was a Rex and he made out oh-kay!” – and we absolutely love bashing Barthes Smile

  2. love berries says:

    Such an incredible encapsulation of beauty, passion and love! and berries Smile

    Barthes is right, there is no ultimate union without physical love, we can truly become one in all ways, in his “embrace” and in the physical union.

    Barthes’ “union” must be the ultimate truth, the “enosis”, the “raison d’etre” that Western prophets described – the way to ‘nirvana” through repeated physical intimacy, where you become one with another and with the universe; where you truly become alive in the realization, in knowing love for another in every cell and in the magical beauty of giving and receiving, in the passion of the emotions and in the passion of making love.

    But let’s not get too serious, the imagery is incredibly vivid – the “image-repertoire goes to the devil” – love it Smile Also love berries, want to share?

  3. Johnny says:

    Barthes has it wrong!

    Imagine sitting on the black sand, watching the waves come in…The humpbacks are broaching, playing with their calf…The sun is setting into far-away sea-cliffs, lost in haze…A bowl of fresh berries, a bottle of Feuillatte by your side…And the ultimate dream -enchanting, vivid, magical – of a bewitching long haired chef-extraordinare and her berries Smile

    Neither Barthes’ “embrace” nor his “definite interval” come close. This is the universal truth – no man alive will dispute it.

    That would be me on the sand Smile

  4. seven_spot_ladybird says:

    why people always like to do something on this subject? Experience talks

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